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Daf Yomi shiur on Maseches Pesachim daf 4 (מסכת פסחים דף ד), in Yiddish, by HaRav Avrohom Karp ZT"L. The Gemara page, Rashi and Tosafos follow along as you listen, with the English translation alongside.
רב, בר אחוה דרבי חייא ובר אחתיה. כי סליק להתם, אמר ליה: אייבו קיים? אמר ליה: אימא קיימת?! אמר ליה: אימא קיימת? אמר ליה: אייבו קיים?! אמר ליה לשמעיה: חלוץ…
The same discussion elsewhere in Shas
Pesachim 4: the daf with times in the shiur
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רב, בר אחוה דרבי חייא ובר אחתיה. כי סליק להתם, אמר ליה: אייבו קיים? אמר ליה: אימא קיימת?! אמר ליה: אימא קיימת? אמר ליה: אייבו קיים?!
The Gemara relates: Rav was the son of Rabbi Ḥiyya’s half brother and the son of Rabbi Ḥiyya’s half sister, as Ayevu, Rav’s father, married his own stepsister, Imma. When Rav ascended there, to Eretz Yisrael, Rabbi Ḥiyya said to Rav: Is your father, Ayevu, alive? He said to him, replying with a question: Is your sister, Imma, alive? He said to him: Indeed, is Imma alive? He said to him: Is Ayevu alive? Upon hearing this, Rabbi Ḥiyya understood that both Ayevu and Imma had passed away, and Rav did not wish to say so explicitly.
אמר ליה לשמעיה: חלוץ לי מנעלי והוליך כלי אחרי לבית המרחץ. שמע מינה תלת. שמע מינה: אבל אסור בנעילת הסנדל. ושמע מינה:
Rabbi Ḥiyya said to his attendant: Remove my shoes and carry my garments after me to the bathhouse. The Gemara comments: Learn from Rabbi Ḥiyya’s instructions three halakhot. Learn from it that wearing shoes is prohibited for a mourner, which is why he instructed his servant to remove his shoes. And learn from it that for distant tidings mourning is practiced only one day. One who receives tidings of the death of a relative more than thirty days after he died, does not mourn for seven days. The halakhot of mourning apply for only a single day. And learn from it that with regard to the halakhot of mourning, the legal status of part of the day is like that of an entire day. The Gemara derives this halakha from the fact that Rabbi Ḥiyya removed his shoes and immediately thereafter went to the bathhouse, an act that is prohibited for a mourner. He was permitted to do so because the restrictions of the mourning period were no longer in effect after briefly going without shoes.
שמועה רחוקה אינה נוהגת אלא יום אחד. ושמע מינה: מקצת היום ככולו.
ההוא דאמר: דונו דיני. אמרי: שמע מינה מדן קאתי, דכתיב: ״דן ידין עמו כאחד שבטי ישראל״.
With regard to the precision required in language, the Gemara relates: A certain man would regularly say whenever involved in conflict: Adjudicate my case [dunu dini]. The Sages said: Learn from it that he descends from the tribe of Dan, as it is written: “Dan will judge [yadin] his people like one of the tribes of Israel” (Genesis 49:16). He expressed himself that way due to his lineage.
ההוא דהוה קא אזיל ואמר: אכיף ימא אסיסני ביראתא. בדקו ואשכחוהו דמזבולון קאתי, דכתיב: ״זבולן לחוף ימים ישכן״.
The Gemara relates a similar incident: A certain man would regularly walk and say: The bushes on the seashore are cypresses (ge’onim), i.e., items located by the sea are more beautiful than those found in other places. They examined his lineage and found that he descends from the tribe of Zebulun, as it is written: “Zebulun shall dwell by the seashore” (Genesis 49:13). That explains his love of all things close to the sea.
והשתא דקיימא לן דלכולי עלמא ״אור״ אורתא הוא, מכדי בין לרבי יהודה ובין לרבי מאיר — חמץ אינו אסור אלא משש שעות ולמעלה, ונבדוק בשית.
The Gemara returns to the issue of the search for leaven. And now that we maintain that everyone agrees the word or in the mishna is evening, consider the following: After all, both according to the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda and according to that of Rabbi Meir, who disagree with regard to the deadline decreed by the Sages to remove all leaven, it is prohibited to derive benefit from leavened bread by Torah law only from the sixth hour of the day and onward. And if so, let us search for leaven at six hours of the day, and eliminate the leaven at that point.
וכי תימא זריזין מקדימין למצות, נבדוק מצפרא. דכתיב: ״וביום השמיני ימול בשר ערלתו״, ותניא: כל היום כולו כשר למילה, אלא שזריזין מקדימים למצות, שנאמר: ״וישכם אברהם בבקר״.
And lest you say that this halakha is in accordance with the principle that the vigilant are early in the performance of mitzvot, let us search in the morning. The principle: The vigilant are early in the performance of mitzvot, is derived, as it is written: “And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised” (Leviticus 12:3). And it was taught in a baraita: The entire day is suitable for performance of the mitzva of circumcision; however, the vigilant are early in the performance of mitzvot, and circumcise in the morning. As it is stated with regard to the binding of Isaac: “And Abraham arose early in the morning” (Genesis 22:3) after hearing God’s command. This indicates that Abraham arose early in his eagerness to perform God’s commandment.
אמר רב נחמן בר יצחק: בשעה שבני אדם מצויין בבתיהם, ואור הנר יפה לבדיקה.
The Gemara cites an answer to its initial question of why the search for leaven is not conducted in the morning. Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: One searches for leaven in the evening as it is a time when people are found in their homes, and they have the opportunity to perform the search. And furthermore, the light of the lamp is favorable for conducting a search specifically at night. As the search is conducted with a lamp, it is preferable to search at night.
אמר אביי: הילכך, האי צורבא מרבנן לא לפתח בעידניה באורתא דתליסר דנגהי ארבסר — דלמא משכא ליה שמעתיה, ואתי לאימנועי ממצוה.
Abaye said: Therefore, in light of the above halakha, a Torah scholar should not begin his regularly scheduled period of Torah study in the evening at the conclusion of the thirteenth of Nisan that is the evening of the fourteenth, as perhaps he will become engrossed in the halakha he is studying and will come to be prevented from performing the mitzva of searching for leaven.
בעו מיניה מרב נחמן בר יצחק: המשכיר בית לחבירו בארבעה עשר, על מי לבדוק? על המשכיר לבדוק — דחמירא דידיה הוא,
They raised a dilemma before Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak: With regard to one who lets a house to another on the fourteenth of Nisan, upon whom is it incumbent to search for leaven? Is it incumbent upon the lessor to search for leaven, as the leavened bread is his; or is it perhaps incumbent upon the lessee to search, as the source of the prohibition is in his domain since he will be living in the house during Passover? He answered: Come and hear an answer from a baraita: With regard to one who lets a house to another, the obligation is upon the lessee to affix a mezuza for it. Apparently, the person renting the house is obligated to perform the mitzvot connected to the house.
או דלמא על השוכר לבדוק — דאיסורא ברשותיה קאי? תא שמע: המשכיר בית לחבירו — על השוכר לעשות לו מזוזה!
התם, הא אמר רב משרשיא: מזוזה חובת הדר היא. הכא, מאי? אמר להו רב נחמן בר יצחק, תנינא: המשכיר בית לחבירו, אם עד שלא מסר לו מפתחות חל
The Gemara rejects this proof: There, in the case of mezuza, didn’t Rav Mesharshiya say: Affixing a mezuza is the obligation of the resident? The fact is that the owner of an uninhabited house is not obligated to affix a mezuza to its doors. If so, the question remains, what is the halakha here? Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said to them that we already learned the resolution to this dilemma in a baraita: One who rents a house to another, if before he delivered the keys to the renter the fourteenth of Nisan began, the obligation is upon the lessor to search for leaven. And if it was after he delivered the keys to him that the fourteenth began, the obligation is upon the lessee to search for leaven.
ארבעה עשר — על המשכיר לבדוק, ואם משמסר לו מפתחות חל ארבעה עשר — על השוכר לבדוק.
בעו מיניה מרב נחמן בר יצחק: המשכיר בית לחבירו בארבעה עשר, חזקתו בדוק או אין חזקתו בדוק? למאי נפקא מינה? לישייליה! דליתיה להאי דלשיוליה. לאטרוחי להאי, מאי?
They raised another dilemma before Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak: With regard to one who lets a house to another on the fourteenth of Nisan, is its presumptive status that it has been searched or is it not its presumptive status that it has been searched? The Gemara asks: What is the practical difference between these possibilities? Let him ask the owner of the house. The Gemara responds: The situation here is one where the owner is not here to ask him. The dilemma is whether or not to impose upon the renter to search for the leaven. What is the halakha?
אמר להו רב נחמן בר יצחק, תניתוה: הכל נאמנים על ביעור חמץ, אפילו נשים אפילו עבדים אפילו קטנים. מאי טעמא מהימני,
Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said to them that we already learned the resolution to this dilemma based on a related baraita: Everyone is believed to provide testimony about the elimination of leavened bread; even women, even slaves, and even minors. Although these people are typically not relied upon to deliver testimony, they are believed when they provide testimony that they have eliminated leaven. The Gemara asks: What is the reason that they are believed?
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לאו משום דחזקתו בדוק, דקסבר: הכל חברים הם אצל בדיקת חמץ. דתניא: חבר שמת והניח מגורה מליאה פירות, אפילו הן בני יומן — הרי הן בחזקת מתוקנים.
Isn’t it due to the fact that the presumptive status of the house is that it has been searched, as this tanna maintains: All are considered ḥaverim with regard to the search for leavened bread? A ḥaver is one with the presumptive status of trustworthiness with regard to a given matter, e.g., ritual purity and impurity, tithes, etc. In this case, since everyone has ḥaver status with regard to searching for leaven, everyone is deemed trustworthy to have performed the requisite action. As it was taught in a baraita: With regard to a ḥaver who died and left a storehouse filled with produce, even if the produce was there only that day, the fruit has the presumptive status of produce that was ritually prepared, i.e., tithed, as there is no doubt that the ḥaver tithed his produce before he died. The same applies to the search for leaven: All are considered ḥaverim and are believed.
וממאי? דילמא שאני הכא, משום דקאמרי הני. אטו אמירה דהני מידי מששא אית ביה?
The Gemara challenges this claim: And from where can this be proven? It is possible that in general a house does not have presumptive status that it was searched, and perhaps it is different here, due to the fact that these people, e.g., a woman, slave, or minor, expressly stated that they conducted the search. Perhaps that is why the house is considered to have been searched. The Gemara rejects this contention: Is that to say that there is any substance in the statement of these people? Since the testimony of all these is disqualified, they lack credibility, and their statements are not reliable. Instead, the reason that there is no need to search the rented property for leaven must be because of the presumption that it has already been searched.
אלא מאי — דחזקתו בדוק? האי ״הכל נאמנים״, ״כל הבתים בחזקת בדוקין בארבעה עשר״ מיבעי ליה!
The Gemara retorts: Rather, what is the reason that one need not search the rented property for leaven? Is it due to the fact that its presumptive status is that it has been searched? If so, this statement should not read: Everyone is believed, as women, slaves, or minors themselves have no credibility. It should have been formulated: With regard to all houses on the fourteenth, their presumptive status is that they have already been searched, as that is the actual rationale for the lenient ruling.
אלא מאי — משום אמירה דהני, הא לא אמרי הני — לא? תפשוט מיניה דאין חזקתו בדוק.
The Gemara rejects this contention: Rather, what is the alternative? Is it that this halakha is due to the statement of these people, and by inference, if these people do not say that the house has been searched, then no, it cannot be assumed that it was searched? If so, resolve the original dilemma from here, as this is proof that the presumptive status of the house is not that it has been searched, unless someone explicitly states that this is the case.
לא, לעולם אימא לך חזקתו בדוק, והכא במאי עסקינן — דמוחזק לן דלא בדק, וקאמרי הני: בדקיניה. מהו דתימא: לא להימנינהו רבנן, קא משמע לן:
The Gemara rejects this conclusion: No, actually I can say to you that on the fourteenth its presumptive status is that it has been searched, and with what case are we dealing here? This halakha is referring to a situation where our presumption is that the owner did not search the house, and these women, slaves, or minors say: We searched it. Lest you say that the Sages do not believe them, as they are unfit to testify, the baraita therefore teaches us that since the search for leavened bread is an ordinance by rabbinic law, as by Torah law mere nullification of one’s ownership before the prohibition of the leaven takes effect is sufficient, the Sages believe them with regard to an ordinance instituted by rabbinic law.
כיון דבדיקת חמץ מדרבנן הוא, דמדאורייתא בביטול בעלמא סגי ליה — הימנוהו רבנן בדרבנן.
איבעיא להו: המשכיר בית לחבירו בחזקת בדוק, ומצאו שאינו בדוק, מהו? מי הוי כמקח טעות, או לא?
A dilemma was raised before the Sages: With regard to one who lets a house to another for Passover, with the presumptive status that it was searched, and the lessee discovered that it was not searched, what is the halakha? Is it considered a mistaken transaction, and the renter can abrogate the deal, claiming that he agreed on the basis of his belief that the property had already been searched? Or no, it is not considered a mistaken transaction?
תא שמע, דאמר אביי: לא מיבעיא באתרא דלא יהבי אגרא ובדקו — דניחא ליה לאיניש לקיומי מצוה בגופיה. אלא אפילו באתרא דיהבי אגרא ובדקו —
The Gemara suggests: Come and hear a resolution to this dilemma, as Abaye said: Needless to say, that in a place where people typically do not pay a wage and hire others to conduct the search for leaven and everyone searches himself, a person prefers to fulfill the mitzva himself. However, even in a place where people pay a wage and have others search for leaven, it is not a mistaken transaction due to the fact that a person prefers to perform the mitzva with his own money. Consequently, it is not considered a mistaken transaction, as a person does not object to having to perform a mitzva.
דניחא ליה לאיניש לקיומי מצוה בממוניה.
תנן התם, רבי מאיר אומר: אוכלין כל חמש, ושורפין בתחלת שש. רבי יהודה אומר: אוכלין כל ארבע, ותולין כל חמש, ושורפין בתחלת שש.
We learned in a mishna there, that Rabbi Meir says: One may eat leaven on the fourteenth day during the entire first five hours of the day, and he burns the leaven at the beginning of the sixth hour. Rabbi Yehuda says: One may eat leaven for the entire first four hours of the day, and one leaves it in abeyance during the fifth hour, at which point eating leaven is prohibited but it need not be burned yet, and one burns the leaven at the beginning of the sixth hour. Everyone agrees, in any case, that leavened bread is prohibited by Torah law from the sixth hour and onward. From where do we derive this?
דכולי עלמא מיהא חמץ משש שעות ולמעלה אסור, מנלן?
אמר אביי: תרי קראי כתיבי, כתיב: ״שבעת ימים שאור לא ימצא בבתיכם״, וכתיב: ״אך ביום הראשון תשביתו שאור מבתיכם״. הא כיצד? לרבות ארבעה עשר לביעור.
Abaye said: Two verses are written, and the halakha is derived by comparing them. It is written in one verse: “Seven days, leaven shall not be found in your houses” (Exodus 12:19), indicating that throughout these seven days it is prohibited to maintain leaven in one’s house. And it is written in another verse: “Yet on the first day you shall remove leaven from your houses” (Exodus 12:15), indicating that one must remove the leaven on the first day, after the Festival has begun. How can this apparent contradiction be resolved? The Gemara responds: The latter verse comes to include the fourteenth day of Nisan with regard to the elimination of leaven. The phrase: On the first day, does not refer to the fifteenth of Nisan or to the beginning of the festival of Passover. It is referring to the fourteenth, the day on which the Paschal lamb is slaughtered.
ואימא לרבות לילי חמשה עשר לביעור, דסלקא דעתך אמינא: ״ימים״ כתיב, ימים — אין, לילות — לא, קא משמע לן אפילו לילות! ההוא לא איצטריכא ליה,
The Gemara asks: And say perhaps, that the verse comes to include the night of the fifteenth, the first night of Passover, with regard to the elimination of leaven. As, were it not for this verse, it could enter your mind to say: Seven days is written, which indicates by inference: During the days, yes, one is obligated to remove leaven, but during the nights, no, there is no requirement to do so. Therefore, the verse teaches us: On the first day, one may not be in possession of leaven even during the nights. The Gemara rejects this suggestion: That halakha was not necessary to be derived by the Sages, as it can be learned from another source.