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Yoma 54

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Daf Yomi shiur on Maseches Yoma daf 54 (מסכת יומא דף נד), in Yiddish, by HaRav Avrohom Karp ZT"L. The Gemara page, Rashi and Tosafos follow along as you listen, with the English translation alongside.

כל הדרה״. מאי: ״כל הדרה״ — חדרה. אתה, מאי אתה אומר? אמר לו, שאני אומר: ארון במקומו נגנז, שנאמר: ״ויאריכו הבדים וגו׳״. אמר ליה רבה לעולא: מאי משמע? דכתיב: ״ויהיו…

The same discussion elsewhere in Shas

Yoma 54: the daf with times in the shiur

Tap a time to hear Rabbi Karp's explanation of that passage.

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כל הדרה״. מאי: ״כל הדרה״ — חדרה. אתה, מאי אתה אומר? אמר לו, שאני אומר: ארון במקומו נגנז, שנאמר: ״ויאריכו הבדים וגו׳״.

all her splendor” (Lamentations 1:6). What is the meaning of: “All her splendor [hadara]”? It means: Her chamber [ḥadra], i.e., something that was hidden within the innermost chambers, namely the Ark. You, Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai, what do you say in response to this? He said to him: As I say, the Ark was buried in its place and not exiled, as it is stated: “And the staves were so long that the ends of the staves were seen from the sacred place before the partition, but they could not be seen without; and they are there to this day” (I Kings 8:8).

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אמר ליה רבה לעולא: מאי משמע? דכתיב: ״ויהיו שם עד היום הזה״, וכל היכא דכתיב: ״עד היום הזה״ לעולם הוא? והכתיב: ״ואת היבוסי יושב ירושלם לא הורישו בני

Rabba said to Ulla: From where in this verse may it be inferred that the Ark was buried in its place? Ulla replied that the source is as it is written: “And they are there to this day,” which is referring to any day when one might read this sentence, i.e., forever. Rabba objected to this explanation: And is it the case that anywhere that it is written “to this day” it means forever, as opposed to the time when the verse was written? But isn’t it written: “And the children of Benjamin did not drive out the Jebusites who inhabited Jerusalem; but the Jebusites dwelt with the children of Benjamin in Jerusalem, to this day” (Judges 1:21)? So too here, let us say that the Jebusites were not exiled from Jerusalem.

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בנימין וישב היבוסי את בני בנימין בירושלם עד היום הזה״, הכי נמי דלא גלו?

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והתניא, רבי יהודה אומר: חמשים ושתים שנה לא עבר איש ביהודה, שנאמר: ״על ההרים אשא בכי ונהי ועל נאות מדבר קינה כי נצתו מבלי איש עובר

But wasn’t it taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehuda says: No person passed through the land of Judea for fifty-two years after the destruction of the Temple by Nebuchadnezzar, as it is stated: “I will raise crying and wailing for the mountains, and a lamentation for the pastures of the wilderness, for they have been burned, with no person passing through. And they do not hear the sound of the cattle; from the bird of the heavens to the beast [behema], all have fled and gone” (Jeremiah 9:9). Behema, spelled beit, heh, mem, heh, has a numerical value of fifty-two, alluding to the fact that no one passed through the land for fifty-two years.

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ולא שמעו קול מקנה מעוף השמים ועד בהמה נדדו הלכו״, ״בהמה״ בגימטריא חמשין ושתים הוו!

▶ 2:53

ותניא, רבי יוסי אומר: שבע שנים נתקיימה גפרית ומלח בארץ ישראל. ואמר רבי יוחנן: מאי טעמא דרבי יוסי — אתיא ״ברית״ ״ברית״. כתיב הכא:

And it was taught in another baraita that Rabbi Yosei says: For seven years a curse of brimstone and salt endured in Eretz Yisrael, rendering it unfit for human habitation. And Rabbi Yoḥanan said: What is the rationale of Rabbi Yosei; from where does he learn this? It is derived from a verbal analogy between “covenant” and “covenant.” It is written here: “And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week” (Daniel 9:27), i.e., seven years. And it is written there: “And that its entire land is brimstone and salt…They shall say: Because they forsook the covenant of the Lord, the God of their fathers” (Deuteronomy 29:22; 24). Evidently, the Jebusites must have been exiled from Jerusalem, which proves that the phrase “to this day” does not always mean forever.

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״והגביר ברית לרבים שבוע אחד״, וכתיב התם: ״ואמרו על אשר עזבו את ברית ה׳ אלהי אבותם״!

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אמר ליה: הכא כתיב ״שם״, התם לא כתיב ״שם״, וכל היכא דכתיב: ״שם״ — לעולם הוא. מיתיבי: ״ומהם מן בני שמעון הלכו להר שעיר

Ulla said to him: Here, with regard to the Ark, it is written: “And they are there”; whereas there, in the verse that deals with the Jebusites, it is not written. And anywhere that “there” is written with the phrase “to this day” it means forever. The Gemara raises an objection from the following verse: “And some of them, even of the sons of Simeon, five hundred men, went to Mount Seir having for their captains Pelatiah and Neariah and Rephaiah and Uzziel, the sons of Ishi. And they smote the remnant of the Amalekites who escaped, and dwelt there to this day” (I Chronicles 4:42–43).

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אנשים חמש מאות ופלטיה ונעריה ורפיה ועוזיאל בני ישעי בראשם. ויכו את שארית הפליטה לעמלק וישבו שם עד היום הזה״.

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וכבר עלה סנחריב מלך אשור ובלבל כל הארצות, שנאמר: ״ואסיר גבולות עמים ועתודותיהם שושתי״. תיובתא.

The Gemara explains its objection: But Sennacherib, king of Assyria, had already come, and through his policy of forced population transfer he had scrambled all the nations of the lands, as it is stated in reference to Sennacherib: “And I have removed the bounds of the peoples, and have robbed their treasures” (Isaiah 10:13). This indicates that the children of Simeon were also exiled, despite the fact that the verse states: “There to this day.” The Gemara concludes: Indeed, this is a conclusive refutation of Ulla’s statement.

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אמר רב נחמן: תנא, וחכמים אומרים: ארון בלשכת דיר העצים היה גנוז. אמר רב נחמן בר יצחק: אף אנן נמי תנינא: מעשה בכהן אחד שהיה מתעסק,

Rav Naḥman said that a Sage taught in the Tosefta: And the Rabbis say that the Ark of the Covenant was buried in the Chamber of the Woodshed. Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: We, too, have learned in a mishna: There was an incident involving a certain priest who was occupied with various matters, and he saw a floor tile in the woodshed that was different from the others. One of the marble floor tiles was higher than the rest, suggesting it had been lifted out and replaced. He came and informed his friend of the uneven tile, but was unable to finish his report and provide the exact location of the tile before his soul departed from his body. And consequently they knew definitively that the Ark was buried there, but its location was meant to be kept secret.

▶ 6:59

וראה רצפה משונה מחברותיה, ובא והודיע את חבירו, ולא הספיק לגמור את הדבר עד שיצתה נשמתו. וידעו ביחוד ששם ארון גנוז.

▶ 7:47

מאי הוה עביד? אמר רבי חלבו: מתעסק בקרדומו היה. תנא דבי רבי ישמעאל: שני כהנים בעלי מומין היו מתליעין בעצים, ונשמטה קרדומו של אחד מהם ונפלה שם,

The Gemara asks: What was he doing, that priest who noticed the misplaced tile? Rabbi Ḥelbo said: He was occupied with his axe, i.e., he was banging the floor with his axe. He thereby discovered an empty space under a tile, which he guessed was the opening of a tunnel. The school of Rabbi Yishmael taught: Two blemished priests were sorting wormy wood when the axe of one of them dropped and fell there, into the hole in the floor. Blemished priests were appointed to inspect the wood for worms, as these logs were unfit for use on the altar. And fire burst out and consumed that priest, so the exact location remains unknown.

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ויצתה אש ואכלתו.

▶ 8:43

רב יהודה רמי. כתיב: ״ויראו ראשי הבדים״, וכתיב: ״ולא יראו החוצה״. הא כיצד? נראין ואין נראין. תניא נמי הכי: ״ויראו ראשי הבדים״,

§ Rabbi Yehuda raised a contradiction. It is written: “The ends of the staves were seen,” and it is written in that same verse: “But they could not be seen without” (I Kings 8:8). How can one reconcile this contradiction? They were seen and yet not seen, i.e., the staves were partially visible. This was also taught in a baraita: “The ends of the staves were seen”; one might have thought that they did not move from their position and did not protrude at all. Therefore, the verse states: “And the staves were so long.” One might have thought that they ripped through the curtain and emerged on the other side; therefore, the verse states: “They could not be seen without.”

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יכול לא יהו זזין ממקומן — תלמוד לומר: ״ויאריכו הבדים״, יכול יהו מקרעין בפרוכת ויוצאין — תלמוד לומר: ״ולא יראו החוצה״.

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הא כיצד? דוחקין ובולטין ויוצאין בפרוכת, ונראין כשני דדי אשה, שנאמר: ״צרור המור דודי לי בין שדי ילין״.

How is this so? The staves of the Ark pushed and protruded and stuck out against the curtain toward the outside, and appeared like the two breasts of a woman pushing against her clothes. As it is stated: “My beloved is to me like a bundle of myrrh, that lies between my breasts” (Song of Songs 1:13). For this reason the Ark of the Covenant, where the Divine Presence rests, is positioned so that its staves protrude through the curtain, like the breasts of a woman.

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אמר רב קטינא: בשעה שהיו ישראל עולין לרגל, מגללין להם את הפרוכת, ומראין להם את הכרובים שהיו מעורים זה בזה, ואומרים להן:

Continuing the previous discussion, Rav Ketina said: When the Jewish people would ascend for one of the pilgrimage Festivals, the priests would roll up the curtain for them and show them the cherubs, which were clinging to one another, and say to them: See how you are beloved before God, like the love of a male and female. The two cherubs symbolize the Holy One, Blessed be He, and the Jewish people.

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ראו חבתכם לפני המקום כחבת זכר ונקבה.

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מתיב רב חסדא: ״ולא יבואו לראות כבלע את הקדש״, ואמר רב יהודה אמר רב: בשעת הכנסת כלים לנרתק שלהם!

Rav Ḥisda raised an objection: How could the priests allow the people to see this? After all, it is stated with regard to the Tabernacle: “But they shall not go in to see the sacred objects as they are being covered, lest they die” (Numbers 4:20), and Rav Yehuda said that Rav said: When the vessels were put into their containers for transport, it was prohibited even for the Levites to look at them. The prohibition against viewing the vessels should be even more severe when they are fixed in their sacred place within the Temple. How could they be publicly displayed?

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אמר רב נחמן: משל לכלה, כל זמן שהיא בבית אביה צנועה מבעלה. כיון שבאתה לבית חמיה — אינה צנועה מבעלה.

Rav Naḥman said in answer: This is analogous to a bride; as long as she is engaged but still in her father’s house, she is modest in the presence of her husband. However, once she is married and comes to her father-in-law’s house to live with her husband, she is no longer modest in the presence of her husband. Likewise, in the wilderness, when the Divine Presence did not dwell in a permanent place, it was prohibited to see the sacred objects. By contrast, all were allowed to see the sacred objects in their permanent place in the Temple.

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מתיב רב חנא בר רב קטינא: מעשה בכהן אחד שהיה מתעסק וכו׳! אמר ליה: נתגרשה קא אמרת, נתגרשה חזרו לחיבתה הראשונה.

Rav Ḥana bar Rav Ketina raised an objection from the aforementioned mishna: There was an incident involving a certain priest who was occupied and discovered the place where the Ark was hidden, and he subsequently died before he could reveal its location. Since he was prevented from seeing the Ark, it was evidently prohibited to see the sacred objects even after the Temple was built. Rav Naḥman said to him: This is not difficult, as you are speaking of when she was divorced. Since the Jewish people were exiled after the destruction of the First Temple, they are compared to a woman divorced from her husband, and when a woman is divorced she returns to her original beloved but reserved state. She is once again modest and does not reveal herself. Likewise, the Divine Presence will remain hidden until the glory of the First Temple is restored.

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במאי עסקינן? אי נימא במקדש ראשון — מי הואי פרוכת? אלא במקדש שני — מי הוו כרובים? לעולם במקדש ראשון, ומאי פרוכת — פרוכת דבבי.

The Gemara poses a question concerning Rav Ketina’s statement: With what are we dealing here; in what circumstance did the priests roll up the curtain to show everyone the cherubs? If we say this is referring to the First Temple, was there a curtain between the Sanctuary and the Holy of Holies? In the First Temple, there was a wall there. Rather, we will say this is referring to the Second Temple; but were there cherubs there? Since there was no Ark, it follows that there were no cherubs on it. The Gemara answers: Actually, Rav Ketina is referring to the First Temple, and what is the curtain that he mentioned? It is the curtain of the gates. For all of the Jewish people to be able to see, they had to raise the curtains hanging on all the gates.

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דאמר רבי זירא אמר רב: שלשה עשר פרוכות היו במקדש, שבעה כנגד שבעה שערים, שתים — אחת לפתחו של היכל, ואחת לפתחו של אולם. שתים בדביר,

As Rabbi Zeira said that Rav said: There were thirteen curtains in the Second Temple: Seven opposite, i.e., on the inside of, seven gates; two additional ones within the Temple, one of which was at the entrance to the Sanctuary and the other one of which was at the entrance to the Entrance Hall. Two additional curtains were within the partition, in the Holy of Holies in place of the one-cubit partition, and two corresponding to them were above in the upper chamber. Above the Holy of Holies, there was another level in the same layout as the one below, and a curtain was affixed there, too, as no one climbed up to the higher chamber above the Holy of Holies without a pressing need. These curtains were most likely hanging in the First Temple as well.

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ושתים כנגדן בעליה.

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רב אחא בר יעקב אמר: לעולם במקדש שני, וכרובים דצורתא הוו קיימי, דכתיב: ״ואת כל קירות הבית מסב קלע כרובים ותמרות ופטורי ציצים וצפה זהב מישר על המחוקה״.

Rav Aḥa bar Ya’akov said: Actually, Rav Ketina’s statement is referring to the Second Temple: There was a curtain at the entrance of the Holy of Holies, and indeed there were images of cherubs there, i.e., drawn or engraved pictures of the cherubs on the walls. As it is written: “And he carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubs and palm trees and open flowers, within and without” (I Kings 6:29), and it is further stated: “And he overlaid them with gold fitted upon the graven work” (I Kings 6:35), which teaches that in addition to the cherubs within the sacred place, other cherubs were drawn on the walls.

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וכתיב: ״כמער איש ולויות״. מאי ״כמער איש ולויות״? אמר רבה בר רב שילא:

And it is written: “According to the space of each with loyot” (I Kings 7:36). The Gemara asks: What is the meaning of: “According to the space of each with loyot”? Rabba bar Rav Sheila said:

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▶ 17:22

כאיש המעורה בלוייה שלו. אמר ריש לקיש: בשעה שנכנסו גוים להיכל ראו כרובים המעורין זה בזה, הוציאון לשוק ואמרו: ישראל הללו,

It means like a man joined and clinging to his livaya, his partner, i.e., his wife. In other words, the cherubs appeared to be embracing one another. Reish Lakish said: When gentiles destroyed the Second Temple and entered the Sanctuary, they saw these drawings of cherubs clinging to one another. They peeled them from the wall, took them out to the market, and said: These Jews, whose blessing is a blessing and whose curse is a curse, due to their great fear of God, should they be occupied with such matters, making images of this kind? They immediately debased and destroyed them, as it is stated: “All who honored her debase her because they have seen her nakedness” (Lamentations 1:8).

▶ 17:55

שברכתן ברכה וקללתן קללה — יעסקו בדברים הללו? מיד הזילום, שנאמר: ״כל מכבדיה הזילוה כי ראו ערותה״.

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ושתיה היתה נקראת. תנא: שממנה הושתת העולם. תנן כמאן דאמר מציון נברא העולם, דתניא, רבי אליעזר אומר: עולם מאמצעיתו נברא, שנאמר: ״בצקת עפר למוצק ורגבים ידובקו״.

§ The mishna taught that a stone sat in the Holy of Holies and it was called the foundation [shetiyya] rock. A Sage taught in the Tosefta: Why was it called shetiyya? It is because the world was created [hushtat] from it. The Gemara comments: We learned the mishna in accordance with the opinion of the one who said that the world was created from Zion. As it was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Eliezer says: The world was created from its center, as it is stated: “When the dust runs into a mass, and the clods cleave fast together” (Job 38:38). The world was created by adding matter to the center, like the formation of clumps of earth.

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רבי יהושע אומר: עולם מן הצדדין נברא, שנאמר: ״כי לשלג יאמר הוי ארץ וגשם מטר וגשם מטרות עוזו״. רבי יצחק (נפחא) אמר: אבן ירה הקדוש ברוך הוא בים,

Rabbi Yehoshua says: The world was created from the sides, as it is stated: “For He said to the snow: Become the earth, likewise to the shower of rain, and to the showers of His mighty rain” (Job 37:6). This verse indicates that the rains fell from all sides, which led to the creation of the earth. Rabbi Yitzḥak Nappaḥa said: The Holy One, Blessed be He, cast a stone into the sea, from which the world was created, as it is stated: “Upon what were its foundations fastened; or who laid its cornerstone?” (Job 38:6).

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ממנו נשתת העולם, שנאמר: ״על מה אדניה הטבעו או מי ירה אבן פנתה״.

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וחכמים אומרים: מציון נברא, שנאמר: ״מזמור לאסף אל אלהים ה׳״. ואומר: ״מציון מכלל יופי״ — ממנו מוכלל יפיו של עולם.

And the Rabbis say: The world was created from Zion, as it is stated: “A Psalm of Asaph. God, the Lord God has spoken and called the earth, from the rising of the sun to its place of setting” (Psalms 50:1), and it states: “Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God has shined forth” (Psalms 50:2), i.e., from Zion the beauty of the world was perfected. The mishna is taught in accordance with this last opinion.

▶ 22:31

תניא, רבי אליעזר הגדול אומר: ״אלה תולדות השמים והארץ בהבראם ביום עשות ה׳ אלהים ארץ ושמים״, ״תולדות שמים״ — משמים נבראו, ״תולדות הארץ״ — מארץ נבראו.

It was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Eliezer the Great says: “These are the generations of the heaven and the earth when they were created, on the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven” (Genesis 2:4) means that the generations of the heavens, i.e., all things found in the heavens, were created from the heavens, while the generations of the earth were created from the earth.

▶ 23:15

וחכמים אומרים: אלו ואלו מציון נבראו, שנאמר: ״מזמור לאסף אל אלהים ה׳ דבר ויקרא ארץ ממזרח שמש עד מבואו״. ואומר: ״מציון מכלל יופי אלהים הופיע״ — ממנו

And the Rabbis say: Both these and those were created from Zion, as it is stated: “A Psalm of Asaph. God, the Lord God has spoken and called the earth, from the rising of the sun to its place of setting,” and it says: “Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God has shined forth,” i.e., from Zion the beauty of the world was perfected, which includes both the generations of the heavens and the generations of the earth.

▶ 23:46

מוכלל יופיו של עולם.

נטל את הדם ממי שממרס בו וכו׳. מאי כמצליף? מחוי רב יהודה —

§ The mishna taught that the High Priest took the blood of the bull from the one who was stirring it so it would not coagulate, and he entered and sprinkled it like one who whips. The Gemara asks: What is the meaning of: Like one who whips? Rav Yehuda demonstrated the action with his hand,