פסחים דף מט

מתני׳ ארבעה עשר שחל להיות בשבת — מבערין את הכל מלפני השבת, דברי רבי מאיר. וחכמים אומרים: בזמנו. רבי אליעזר בר צדוק אומר: תרומה — מלפני השבת,

MISHNA: With regard to the fourteenth of Nisan that occurs on Shabbat, one removes all leaven from his possession, whether it is teruma or non-sacred food, before Shabbat, except for that which will be eaten during the first part of Shabbat. In that case, one cannot remove leaven from his possession on the fourteenth of Nisan itself as he does in other years. This is the statement of Rabbi Meir. And the Rabbis say: One may remove the leaven at its usual time on the fourteenth of Nisan by throwing it away or declaring it ownerless. Rabbi Eliezer bar Tzadok says: Teruma should be removed before Shabbat, as only a few people are permitted to eat it and therefore one can presume that it will remain uneaten during Shabbat. However, non-sacred foods should be removed at their usual time, on the fourteenth of Nisan itself.

וחולין — בזמנן.

גמ׳ תניא, רבי אליעזר בר צדוק אומר: פעם אחת שבת אבא ביבנה, וחל ארבעה עשר להיות בשבת. ובא זונין ממונה של רבן גמליאל ואמר:

GEMARA: It was taught in the Tosefta that Rabbi Eliezer bar Tzadok says: One time my father, Rabbi Tzadok, spent Shabbat in Yavne, and the fourteenth of Nisan occurred on that Shabbat. Zonin, who was the appointee of Rabban Gamliel, came and said: The time has come to remove leavened bread; and I went with my father and we removed the leavened bread. This story serves as anecdotal evidence that leaven is removed at the usual time on the fourteenth of Nisan, even on Shabbat.

הגיע עת לבער את החמץ, והלכתי אחר אבא וביערנו את החמץ.

מתני׳ ההולך לשחוט את פסחו, ולמול את בנו, ולאכול סעודת אירוסין בבית חמיו, ונזכר שיש לו חמץ בתוך ביתו. אם יכול לחזור ולבער ולחזור למצותו — יחזור ויבער,

MISHNA: One who is traveling on the eve of Passover to slaughter his Paschal lamb, to circumcise his son, or to eat a betrothal feast in his father-in-law’s house, and he remembers that he has leavened bread in his house, if he is able to return to his house and remove the leaven and afterward return to the mitzva toward which he was traveling, he should return home and remove his leaven. But if there is not enough time for him to go home and remove the leaven, and still complete the mitzva that he already began, he should nullify it in his heart, as by Torah law this is sufficient.

ואם לאו — מבטלו בלבו.

להציל מן הגוים, ומן הנהר, ומן הלסטים, ומן הדליקה, ומן המפולת — יבטל בלבו. ולשבות שביתת הרשות — יחזור מיד.

If one was traveling to save Jews from an attack by gentiles, from a flooding river, from bandits, from a fire, or from a collapsed building, he should not even attempt to return, and instead he should nullify the leaven in his heart. This applies even if he could remove his leaven and still return to his previous activity. If he went to establish his Shabbat residence in order to adjust his Shabbat limit for an optional purpose, rather than in order to fulfill a commandment, he should return immediately to remove his leaven.

וכן מי שיצא מירושלים ונזכר שיש בידו בשר קדש, אם עבר צופים — שורפו במקומו. ואם לאו — חוזר ושורפו לפני הבירה מעצי המערכה.

And so too, the same halakha applies to one who left Jerusalem and remembered that there was consecrated meat in his hand. Meat that is taken out of Jerusalem becomes disqualified, and one is required to burn it in proximity to the Temple. If he passed the area of Mount Scopus [Tzofim], beyond which one cannot see Jerusalem, he burns the meat at the site where he is located; and if he has not traveled that far, he must return and burn it before the Temple with wood from the arrangement on the altar, which was designated for burning consecrated items that were disqualified.

ועד כמה הן חוזרין? רבי מאיר אומר: זה וזה בכביצה, רבי יהודה אומר: זה וזה בכזית. וחכמים אומרים: בשר קדש — בכזית, וחמץ — בכביצה.

The mishna asks: For how much leaven or consecrated meat is one required to return? Rabbi Meir says: In both this case and that case, one must return for an egg-bulk. Rabbi Yehuda says: In both this case and that case, one must return for an olive-bulk. And the Rabbis say that the amount depends on the case: With regard to consecrated meat, he is required to return if he has an olive-bulk, but in a case where he remembers that he has leavened bread, he required to return only for an egg-bulk.

גמ׳ ורמינהו: ההולך לאכול סעודת אירוסין בבית חמיו, ולשבות שביתת הרשות — יחזור מיד!

GEMARA: The Gemara raises a contradiction between this mishna and another source. It was taught in a baraita: One who is traveling to eat a betrothal feast in his father-in-law’s house or to establish his Shabbat residence for an optional purpose, must return immediately to remove his leaven. This contradicts the mishna, which states that one who is going to a betrothal feast may nullify the leaven without returning for it, because the meal is considered a mitzva.

אמר רבי יוחנן, לא קשיא: הא — רבי יהודה, הא — רבי יוסי. דתניא: סעודת אירוסין רשות, דברי רבי יהודה. רבי יוסי אומר: מצוה.

Rabbi Yoḥanan said: This is not difficult, as there is a tannaitic dispute with regard to the issue. This source, the baraita, is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, while that source, the mishna, is in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yosei. As it was taught in a baraita: A betrothal feast is optional; this is the statement of Rabbi Yehuda. Rabbi Yosei says: It is a mitzva.

והשתא דאמר רב חסדא: מחלוקת בסעודה שניה, אבל בסעודה ראשונה דברי הכל מצוה. אפילו תימא הא והא רבי יהודה, ולא קשיא: הא — בסעודה ראשונה,

And now that Rav Ḥisda said: The dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosei applies to the second betrothal feast, where the groom takes part in an additional meal with the bride’s family, but everyone agrees that the first betrothal feast is a mitzva, the contradiction between the mishna and the baraita can be resolved differently. Even if you say that this mishna and that baraita are both in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yehuda, it is not difficult. This mishna, which relates to the meal as a mitzva, is referring to the first meal. That baraita, which assumes that the meal is not a mitzva, is referring to the second meal.

הא — בסעודה שניה.

תניא אמר רבי יהודה: אני לא שמעתי אלא סעודת אירוסין, אבל לא סבלונות. אמר לו רבי יוסי: אני שמעתי סעודת אירוסין וסבלונות.

It was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehuda said: I heard only that there is a mitzva with regard to a betrothal feast itself, but not with regard to the feast of the gifts [sivlonot], when the groom would present gifts to the bride. While a festive meal was eaten on this occasion, it was not considered to be a mitzva. Rabbi Yosei said to him: I heard that both a betrothal feast and the feast of the gifts are considered mitzvot.

תניא, רבי שמעון אומר: כל סעודה שאינה של מצוה — אין תלמיד חכם רשאי להנות ממנה.

Having discussed whether a betrothal feast is a mitzva, the Gemara addresses a related issue. It was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Shimon says: A Torah scholar may not derive benefit from partaking in any feast that is not a mitzva.

כגון מאי? אמר רבי יוחנן: כגון בת כהן לישראל, ובת תלמיד חכם לעם הארץ. דאמר רבי יוחנן: בת כהן לישראל — אין זווגן עולה יפה.

The Gemara asks: In what case does this statement apply? Rabbi Yoḥanan said: In a case where the daughter of a priest marries an Israelite, or where the daughter of a Torah scholar marries an ignoramus. Although a wedding feast is generally a mitzva, it is not in this case, as Rabbi Yoḥanan said: When the daughter of a priest marries an Israelite their union will not be auspicious, as it is disgraceful for the priesthood when the daughter of a priest marries an Israelite.

מאי היא? אמר רב חסדא: או ״אלמנה״, או ״גרושה״, או ״זרע אין לה״. במתניתא תנא: קוברה או קוברתו, או מביאתו לידי עניות.

The Gemara asks: What is meant by this statement that their union will be inauspicious? Rav Ḥisda said: The inauspicious nature of such a marriage can be identified based on the verse describing the return of a daughter of a priest to her father’s house after marrying a non-priest. The verse is understood as mentioning that the marriage will result in one of three possibilities: she will either be a widow, a divorcee, or without children (see Leviticus 22:13). It was taught in a baraita: Either her husband will bury her or she will bury him, because one of them will die young, or she will cause him to become poor.

איני?! והא אמר רבי יוחנן: הרוצה שיתעשר ידבק בזרעו של אהרן, כל שכן שתורה וכהונה מעשרתן. לא קשיא: הא — בתלמיד חכם, הא — בעם הארץ.

The Gemara asks: Is that so? Didn’t Rabbi Yoḥanan himself say: One who wishes to become wealthy should cling to the descendants of Aaron, and all the more so should the merit of the Torah and the priesthood cause them to become wealthy. The Gemara answers: This is not difficult, as this case, where he becomes wealthy, refers to a Torah scholar who marries a woman of priestly lineage. In that case their union will be a successful one. That case, where their union will not be auspicious, refers to an ignoramus who marries a woman of priestly lineage.

רבי יהושע נסיב כהנתא, חלש. אמר: לא ניחא ליה לאהרן דאדבק בזרעיה, דהוי ליה חתנא כי אנא.

The Gemara relates that Rabbi Yehoshua married a daughter of a priest and became ill. He said: Apparently, it is not satisfactory to Aaron the priest that I cling to his descendants, so that he has a son-in-law like me.

רב אידי בר אבין נסיב כהנתא, נפקו מיניה תרי בני סמיכי: רב ששת בריה דרב אידי, ורבי יהושע בריה דרב אידי. אמר רב פפא:

The Gemara also relates that Rav Idi bar Avin married a daughter of a priest. Two sons who were ordained to decide halakhic matters came from him, namely Rav Sheshet, son of Rav Idi, and Rabbi Yehoshua, son of Rav Idi. Similarly, Rav Pappa said: Had I not married a daughter of a priest, I would not have become wealthy.

אי לא נסיבנא כהנתא, לא איעתרי.

אמר רב כהנא: אי לא נסיבנא כהנתא, לא גלאי. אמרו ליה: והא למקום תורה גלית! לא גלאי כדגלי אינשי.

On the other hand, Rav Kahana, who was not a priest, said: Had I not married a daughter of a priest, I would not have been exiled, as Rav Kahana was forced to flee from Babylonia to Eretz Yisrael. They said to him: But you were exiled to a place of Torah, which is not a punishment at all. He answered: I was not exiled as people are generally exiled, i.e., I did not emigrate of my own free will; rather, I was forced to flee from the authorities.

אמר רבי יצחק: כל הנהנה מסעודת הרשות לסוף גולה, שנאמר: ״ואכלים כרים מצאן ועגלים מתוך מרבק״, וכתיב: ״לכן עתה יגלו בראש גולים״.

Rabbi Yitzḥak said: Anyone who benefits from partaking in an optional feast, which is not a mitzva, will ultimately be exiled, as it is stated: “And eat the lambs of the flock and the calves out of the midst of the stall” (Amos 6:4), and it is written: “Therefore now they shall go into exile at the head of the exiles; and the revelry of those who stretched themselves out shall pass away” (Amos 6:7).

תנו רבנן: כל תלמיד חכם המרבה סעודתו בכל מקום, סוף מחריב את ביתו, ומאלמן את אשתו, ומייתם את גוזליו, ותלמודו משתכח ממנו, ומחלוקות רבות באות עליו,

The Gemara continues discussing a Torah scholar who benefits from optional feasts. The Sages taught: Any Torah scholar who feasts excessively everywhere degrades himself and brings suffering upon himself. He will ultimately destroy his house, widow his wife, orphan his chicks, i.e., his children, and his studies will be forgotten. Much dispute will come upon him, his words will not be heeded, and he will desecrate God’s name and the name of his master and the name of his father. And he will cause a bad name for himself, his children, and his descendants throughout future generations.

ודבריו אינם נשמעים, ומחלל שם שמים ושם רבו ושם אביו, וגורם שם רע לו ולבניו ולבני בניו עד סוף כל הדורות.

מאי היא? אמר אביי: קרו ליה בר מחים תנורי. רבא אמר: בר מרקיד בי כובי. רב פפא אמר: בר מלחיך פינכי. רב שמעיה אמר: בר מך רבע.

The Gemara asks: What is this bad reputation that he causes to himself and his descendants? Abaye said: His son is called the son [bar] of the one who heats ovens, since this person continually heated ovens in order to prepare food for feasts. Rava said: His son will be called the son of the one who dances in inns [bei kuvei], as he seems to be invited to every feast to entertain the guests. Rav Pappa said: His son will be called the son of the one who licks bowls [pinkhei]. Rav Shemaya said: His son will be called the son of the one who folds his garment and crouches, i.e., falls asleep drunk.

תנו רבנן: לעולם ימכור אדם כל מה שיש לו וישא בת תלמיד חכם, שאם מת או גולה — מובטח לו שבניו תלמידי חכמים. ואל ישא בת עם הארץ,

On the topic of proper marriage partners, the Gemara cites the following discussion. The Sages taught: One should always be willing to sell all he has in order to marry the daughter of a Torah scholar, as if he dies or if he is exiled and he cannot raise his children, he can be assured that his sons will be Torah scholars, since their mother will ensure that they are well educated. And one should not marry the daughter of an ignoramus, as if he dies or is exiled, his sons will be ignoramuses.

שאם מת או גולה — בניו עמי הארץ.

תנו רבנן: לעולם ימכור אדם כל מה שיש לו וישא בת תלמיד חכם, וישיא בתו לתלמיד חכם, משל לענבי הגפן בענבי הגפן, דבר נאה ומתקבל.

Furthermore, the Sages taught: One should always be willing to sell all he has in order to marry the daughter of a Torah scholar and in order to marry off his daughter to a Torah scholar. This type of marriage can be compared to grapes of a vine that become intertwined with grapes of a vine, something which is beautiful and acceptable to God and man. And one should not marry the daughter of an ignoramus. This type of marriage can be compared to grapes of a vine that have become intertwined with berries of a bramble, which is something unseemly

ולא ישא בת עם הארץ, משל לענבי הגפן בענבי הסנה, דבר כעור

ואינו מתקבל.

and unacceptable.

תנו רבנן: לעולם ימכור אדם כל מה שיש לו, וישא בת תלמיד חכם. לא מצא בת תלמיד חכם — ישא בת גדולי הדור.

The Sages taught: A person should always be willing to sell all he has in order to marry the daughter of a Torah scholar. If he cannot find the daughter of a Torah scholar, he should marry the daughter of one of the great people of the generation, who are pious although they are not Torah scholars. If he cannot find the daughter of one of the great people of the generation, he should marry the daughter of one of the heads of the congregations. If he cannot find the daughter of one of the heads of the congregations, he should marry the daughter of one of the charity collectors. If he cannot find the daughter of one of the charity collectors, he should marry the daughter of one of the schoolteachers. However, he should not marry the daughter of an ignoramus [am ha’aretz] because they are vermin and their wives are similar to a creeping animal, as their lifestyle involves the violation of numerous prohibitions. And with regard to their daughters the verse states: “Cursed is he who lies with an animal” (Deuteronomy 27:21), as they are similar to animals in that they lack any knowledge or moral sense.

לא מצא בת גדולי הדור — ישא בת ראשי כנסיות. לא מצא בת ראשי כנסיות — ישא בת גבאי צדקה. לא מצא בת גבאי צדקה — ישא

בת מלמדי תינוקות. ולא ישא בת עמי הארץ, מפני שהן שקץ, ונשותיהן שרץ, ועל בנותיהן הוא אומר: ״ארור שוכב עם כל בהמה״.

תניא, רבי אומר: עם הארץ אסור לאכול בשר, (בהמה) שנאמר: ״זאת תורת הבהמה והעוף״: כל העוסק בתורה מותר לאכול בשר בהמה ועוף,

The Gemara continues its discussion with regard to an ignoramus. It was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: It is prohibited for an ignoramus to eat meat, as it is stated: “This is the law [torah] of the beast and of the fowl” (Leviticus 11:46). He expounds: Anyone who engages in Torah study is permitted to eat the meat of animals and fowl, and anyone who does not engage in Torah study is prohibited to eat the meat of animals or fowl.

וכל שאינו עוסק בתורה אסור לאכול בשר בהמה ועוף.

אמר רבי אלעזר: עם הארץ מותר לנוחרו ביום הכיפורים שחל להיות בשבת. אמרו לו תלמידיו: רבי, אמור לשוחטו! אמר להן: זה טעון ברכה, וזה אינו טעון ברכה.

The Gemara proceeds to mention some sharply negative statements of the Sages in which they overstated their negative sentiments with regard to ignoramuses, although these ignoramuses were wicked in addition to being boors (ge’onim). Rabbi Elazar said: It is permitted to stab an ignoramus to death on Yom Kippur that occurs on Shabbat. His students said to him: Master, at least say that it is permitted to slaughter him. He said to them: I intentionally used the word stab, as this term, slaughtering, requires a blessing when one slaughters an animal, and that term, stabbing, does not require a blessing in any context.

אמר רבי אלעזר: עם הארץ אסור להתלוות עמו בדרך, שנאמר: ״כי היא חייך ואורך ימיך״, על חייו לא חס, על חיי חבירו — לא כל שכן.

Rabbi Elazar said: It is prohibited to accompany an ignoramus while traveling on the road due to concern that the ignoramus might try to harm his traveling partner, as it is stated with regard to Torah: “For it is your life and the length of your days” (Deuteronomy 30:20). An ignoramus has not studied any Torah, indicating that he is not concerned about his own life; with regard to another’s life, all the more so.

אמר רבי שמואל בר נחמני אמר רבי יוחנן: עם הארץ מותר לקורעו כדג. אמר רבי שמואל בר יצחק: ומגבו.

Rabbi Shmuel bar Naḥmani said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: It is permitted to tear open an ignoramus like a fish. Rabbi Shmuel bar Yitzḥak said: And one may cut him open from his back and thereby cause his immediate death by piercing his spinal cord rather than his stomach.

תניא, אמר רבי עקיבא: כשהייתי עם הארץ אמרתי: מי יתן לי תלמיד חכם ואנשכנו כחמור. אמרו לו תלמידיו: רבי, אמור ככלב! אמר להן: זה נושך ושובר עצם,

It was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Akiva said: When I was an ignoramus I said: Who will give me a Torah scholar so that I will bite him like a donkey? His students said to him: Master, say that you would bite him like a dog! He said to them: I specifically used that wording, as this one, a donkey, bites and breaks bones, and that one, a dog, bites but does not break bones.

וזה נושך ואינו שובר עצם.

תניא, היה רבי מאיר אומר: כל המשיא בתו לעם הארץ, כאילו כופתה ומניחה לפני ארי. מה ארי דורס ואוכל, ואין לו בושת פנים — אף עם

It was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Meir would say: Anyone who marries off his daughter to an ignoramus is considered as though he binds her and places her before a lion. Why is this so? Just as a lion mauls its prey and eats and has no shame, so too, an ignoramus strikes his wife and then engages in sexual relations with her without appeasing her first, and has no shame.

הארץ מכה ובועל, ואין לו בושת פנים.

תניא, רבי אליעזר אומר: אילמלא אנו צריכין להם למשא ומתן, היו הורגין אותנו.

It was taught in a baraita that Rabbi Eliezer says: If we did not need the ignoramuses for business, they would kill us.

תנא רבי חייא: כל העוסק בתורה לפני עם הארץ, כאילו בועל ארוסתו בפניו, שנאמר: ״תורה צוה לנו משה מורשה״. אל תקרי: ״מורשה״, אלא: מאורסה.

The Gemara shifts to a discussion of an ignoramus who has some degree of sensitivity (Me’iri). Rabbi Ḥiyya taught: Anyone who engages in Torah study in the presence of an ignoramus, causing the ignoramus embarrassment and anguish over his inability to study Torah, is considered as though he had sexual relations with the ignoramus’s betrothed bride in his presence, as it is stated: “Moses commanded us the Torah, an inheritance [morasha] for the congregation of Jacob” (Deuteronomy 33:4). Do not read it as inheritance [morasha]; rather, read it as betrothed [me’orasa]. The Torah is compared to the betrothed bride of the Jewish people until one studies it and thereby consummates his marriage with it.

גדולה שנאה ששונאין עמי הארץ לתלמיד חכם יותר משנאה ששונאין אומות העולם את ישראל, ונשותיהן יותר מהן. תנא שנה ופירש, יותר מכולן.

Similarly, he said: The hatred which ignoramuses have for a Torah scholar is greater than the hatred that the nations of the world have for the Jewish people. And the wives of the ignoramuses hate Torah scholars more than the ignoramuses themselves. It was taught in the Tosefta that one who studied Torah and left his studies hates Torah scholars more than all of them.

תנו רבנן: ששה דברים נאמרו בעמי הארץ: אין מוסרין להן עדות. ואין מקבלין ממנו עדות. ואין מגלין להן סוד. ואין ממנין אותן אפוטרופוס על היתומים.

The Sages taught: Six statements were made with regard to ignoramuses: One may not entrust them with testimony, i.e., one may not appoint them as witnesses to a particular event or transaction. Additionally, one may not accept testimony from them, as they are not considered trustworthy, and one should not reveal a secret to them, as they will reveal it. One may not appoint them as steward [apotropos] over an estate belonging to orphans, due to concern that they might make improper use of the orphans’ property. Likewise, one may not appoint them as guardian over a charity fund. Finally, one should not accompany them while traveling on the road, due to concern for one’s safety. And there are those who say: One does not even announce their lost items, meaning that if one finds a lost article from such a person, he is allowed to keep it without making an effort to locate the owner (Me’iri).

ואין ממנין אותן אפוטרופוס על קופה של צדקה. ואין מתלוין עמהן בדרך. ויש אומרים: אף אין מכריזין על אבידתו.

ותנא קמא? זמנין דנפיק מיניה זרעא מעליא ואכיל ליה, שנאמר: ״יכין וצדיק ילבש״.

The Gemara asks: What is the reasoning of the first tanna, who holds that one must announce having found the lost article of an ignoramus? The Gemara explains: Sometimes upstanding offspring will come from him and will consume the property, as it is stated: “He may prepare it but the just shall put it on” (Job 27:17). It is possible for a wicked person to prepare something for himself that will later be used by a righteous person.

וכן מי שיצא וכו׳.

The Gemara returns to explaining the mishna. It was taught: And so too, one who left Jerusalem with sacrificial meat in his possession must return to Jerusalem to burn it, just as one is required to return in order to remove leaven from his possession. According to Rabbi Meir, this halakha applies with regard to an egg-bulk of sacrificial meat or leaven, whereas Rabbi Yehuda disagrees and says the minimum amount for both is an olive-bulk.

למימרא דרבי מאיר סבר כביצה הוא דחשיב, ורבי יהודה סבר כזית נמי חשיב. ורמינהי: עד כמה הן מזמנין? עד כזית, ורבי יהודה אומר: עד כביצה!

The Gemara asks: Is that to say that Rabbi Meir holds that an egg-bulk is the minimal amount that is considered significant, and Rabbi Yehuda holds that an olive-bulk is also considered significant? The Gemara raises a contradiction from a mishna in Berakhot: How much food must one eat in order to obligate those with whom he ate in a zimmun? An olive-bulk of food is sufficient according to the unattributed opinion in the mishna, which is generally that of Rabbi Meir. And Rabbi Yehuda says: An egg-bulk is the minimum measure to obligate those with whom one ate in a zimmun. This seems to contradict the opinions of Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Yehuda stated in the mishna here.

אמר רבי יוחנן: מוחלפת השיטה.

Rabbi Yoḥanan said: The opinions are reversed in one of these sources, and must be emended.

אביי אמר: לעולם לא תיפוך. התם — בקראי פליגי, הכא — בסברא פליגי. התם בקראי פליגי, רבי מאיר סבר: ״ואכלת״ — זו אכילה,

Abaye said: Actually, do not reverse the opinions. There, they disagree with regard to the interpretation of verses, while here, they disagree with regard to logical reasoning. How so? There, with regard to zimmun, they disagree with regard to the interpretation of verses. Rabbi Meir holds that the verse: “And you shall eat and be satisfied and bless the Lord your God” (Deuteronomy 8:10) should be understood as follows: “And you shall eat,” that is eating; “and be satisfied,” that is drinking. The standard halakhic principle is that eating is defined as the consumption of an olive-bulk. And Rabbi Yehuda holds: “And you shall eat and you shall be satisfied” refers to eating that includes satisfaction. And what is considered eating with satisfaction? It is consumption of an egg-bulk.

״ושבעת״ — זו שתיה, ואכילה בכזית. ורבי יהודה סבר: ״ואכלת ושבעת״ — אכילה שיש בה שביעה, ואיזו זו? בכביצה.

הכא בסברא פליגי, דרבי מאיר סבר חזרתו כטומאתו: מה טומאתו בכביצה, אף חזרתו בכביצה. ורבי יהודה סבר חזרתו

However, here, in the cases of leaven and consecrated food, they disagree not with regard to the interpretation of verses but with regard to logical reasoning, as Rabbi Meir holds: The requirement to return consecrated food is analogous to its ritual impurity. Just as its susceptibility to ritual impurity is only when it is the size of an egg-bulk, so too, the requirement to return it is only when it is the size of an egg-bulk. And Rabbi Yehuda holds: The requirement to return consecrated food